You can make $160 to $440 per day- just by giving away free stuff. All the hard work is already done for you, so you can just sit back and collect the profits!
This is what Tiny Website System promises you… and it’s pure hype. So it’s a good thing you’re here, reading this review.
Read on to see what this system is really about…
Tiny Website System Review
I came across Tiny Website System today via an email and decided to take a closer look. The first thing I did was click the link in the email, which took me to the following optin page…
From there, I was taken to a sales video featuring ‘Jack Ryder’. He talks about how you can quickly and easily make $1,000’s per month without really doing anything.
Sounds good, but this is also what many scams say. Couple this with the news logos and video clips (another common scam tactic) and my guard was up at this point.
In fact, most of the content throughout the sales funnel is really just hype. The kind of hype scammers use to convince people to buy on impulse.
Not a good start. But let’s take a closer look…
What Is Tiny Website System?
Tiny Website System is really just a ‘reboot’ of an old program.
The ‘training’ videos show you how to setup a basic sales funnel to promote the same system and/ or other ‘biz ops’ as an affiliate. The price is $1 if you want to trial the system, and $49 per month if you decide to continue your membership after 15 days.
How do I know it’s just a reboot of an old program?
Well, during the sales presentation, I remembered the name “Jack Ryder” from a program I reviewed in 2016 called Profit With Jack. The further I looked into TWS, the more obvious it became as to how similar these two ‘systems’ are.
Same sales pages, videos, pricing and very similar logos…
Also worth noting- when I tried to leave the site, an exit popup displays. Which took me to the Profit With Jack checkout page…
So considering these factors, it’s safe to say these two programs are very similar.
TWS is also very similar to another program I reviewed a while back called PWM Live (AKA Profit With Mike/ Michael). Like Profit With Jack, PWM Live is far from legitimate.
If you have time, it’s worth reading either of the above reviews to see what I mean.
Anyways, I always like to be sure about a given program before I do a review. So I decided to give TWS the benefit of the doubt, and shell out the $1…
Immediately After Buying
As soon as I paid the $1 I was greeted by ‘Dave Ryder’ who claims to be Jack Ryder’s brother. He was pitching a ‘Done for you’ landing pages upsell for $37.
To be honest, a $37 upsell is not a lot of money nor is it extreme as far as upselling goes. This did actually surprise me. But not for long though.
Because I soon found out that there is quite a bit of upselling built into the system itself. In order to make this system work- there are $100’s (potentially even $1,000’s) per month worth of addittional purchases you will need to make.
Here’s what I mean by extra costs…
Inside The TWS Members Area
The members area is very similar to what I found in Profit With Jack, but the overall system is somewhat different. Which means it was worth paying the $1 after all, at least, for the purpose of this review.
Anyways, the ‘system’ is made up of 3 main modules, each with it’s own set of tasks…
Your goal is essentially to setup a capture page, email autoresponder, tracking software and other elements that go into a basic online sales funnel. All for the purpose of promoting the Tiny Website System as an affiliate.
Once you’ve got the basics in place, you then need to buy traffic from one of the recommended providers. In this case, Traffic For Me is what they recommend which is similar to solo ads. The price ‘per click’ is not disclosed, but it’s (generally speaking) anywhere from $0.50 to $0.80 per click depending on the quality of the traffic.
The good news is, these steps are relatively easy to follow and the end result is a working sales funnel. You can make money promoting TWS and other ‘biz ops’ as an affiliate using this strategy. There’s no doubt about it.
Unfortunately though, the ‘training steps’ don’t actually teach you much of anything. They are basic videos on how to setup a done for you sales funnel.
And by the time you get to the end of these steps, the real cost of this program starts to become clear. Here are some of the additional products/ services you will need to budget for…
- ClickFunnels= $97 – $297 per month
- GetResponse= $15 – $49 per month (more depending on your list size)
- ClickMagick= $12 – $66 per month
- Unlock more capture pages= $97 (only some landing pages are included)
- Paid Traffic= How deep are your pockets?
This brings the total cost of this system (taking into consideration the $49 per month for TWS) to between $173 to $461 per month. And that’s not including the $97 upsell or any other upsells down the road.
Not to mention, buying traffic is something you will absolutely need to do with this system. And this can cost you an absolute fortune. Paying for traffic can be very worthwhile if you know what you are doing. But without proper training, it is very risky as a beginner, and can cost you a fortune very quickly.
The reason why ClickFunnels is an essential purchase within the scope of this system, is because this is how they “give you a website”. They are essentially sharing their existing capture pages (AKA funnels) with you. All of which are setup to promote TWS and products within the ‘make money online’ niche.
GetResponse is a quality email marketing service that integrates with ClickFunnels. So when someone puts their email into the box, you collect that lead and re-market to them.
ClickMagick is a tracking system that allows you to make a lot more money by split testing and tracking your results. So you can ‘fine tune’ your marketing campaigns.
So there is some training within TWS. But it’s mostly about setting up the additional products you need to buy to make this system work.
You Only Get Part of What You Really Need…
Something I really think is worth mentioning here, is that the training is very much only ‘part’ of what you really need to succeed.
For example, a BIG part of any successful sales funnel is a good email marketing followup sequence. But with this system, you get a download of random email swipes for a variety of different niches. Which is practically useless. If you’re a beginner, you won’t know where or how to even use these emails as there’s no training on this.
So you will have a working funnel in place, and you can make money this way. But it’s NOT as simple as plugging in and watching the money roll in.
You need to educate yourself if you want to be successful online. Period.
With TWS, there is very little in the way of education beyond setting a few things up. Which is why the $49 monthly price tag is a bit of an insult if you ask me.
This is probably where the whole “call your coach” thing comes into play…
You call your coach because you’re lost and don’t know what to do next. If you do, you will almost certainly be encouraged to spend a LOT more money on high ticket coaching/ more advanced training.
The Verdict- Is Tiny Website System a Scam?
My first impression was that Tiny Website System is a scam. Mostly because TWS is very similar to Profit With Jack, which I know from personal experience is a scam.
But after buying, I don’t think it’s fair to call TWS a complete scam.
I mean, for $1 you do get some training (although very basic) and some pre-made capture pages. And most of the products they pitch within the system itself (at least ClickFunnels, GetResponse and ClickMagick) are legitimate.
So you can make money this way, and there’s nothing wrong with promoting legitimate programs within the ‘make money’ space.
But there are definitely some things I didn’t like about this too…
Firstly, the marketing is FULL of misleading hype in my opinion. If you are considering buying this, you should probably just disregard most of the sales pitch. It’s marketing hype 101.
Second, there is very little education included in your membership. It’s mostly just setting up the system and ‘off you go’ type thing. There is an ‘advanced’ section of training, but that’s yet another upsell.
Third, one of the most fundamental aspects of the sales funnel (email followups) is useless. And there is no training on how to create your own.
Lastly, I am not a fan of ‘done for you’ sales funnels. Because, while they do work to some extent, they quickly lose their value once the masses come in and start using the same funnels. This is especially true when everyone is using the same traffic source, which this system encourages.
What you decide to do is your call. But at least now you have some scope into this system and how it works. Either way, it’s not something I recommend.
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